After placing an appeal on my blog last night for more information on Clive Jefferson I received a couple of e-mails from locals who know a bit more about him. Clive worked as a bouncer in Workington and had a reputation as a thug. Apparently Jefferson was also well known in the area as a drug dealer but this was never confirmed. He was however convicted of driving under the influence of drugs, his drug of choice was apparently cocaine although on this particular occassion he had taken speed. This incident happened around 1999/2000 when he changed his name from Clive Aitken to Clive Jefferson, perhaps to escape the reputation that he had in the Workington area. This incident was also reported in the Whitehaven news.
The more serious incident of Clive being involved in driving a car at someone after an incident at the Forum nightclub in Workington was in fact true although he may not have been the driver, but he was involved. He managed to wriggle his way out by blaming the incident upon a young lad who served a custodial sentence as a result and allowing Clive to get away Scot free. This happened around 1992. Clive was always rumoured to carry a gun although my sources believe this to be untrue although you can grasp the type of bloke this is when rumours like this are circulating.
Thanks for the tip offs and any more information of this caliber will be greatly appreciated.
Monday, January 28, 2008
Local Fascist's Violent Past Update
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Jonathan,ever considered publishing facts,as opposed to rumours?
Anyone can say anything about anyone.Its too easy,especially when you do not like someone or what they believe in.
JW, a.c.r. is surely right. As well as the issue of blog-credibility, your over zealous spreading of rumour opens you up to legal charges of libel - be assured the blogs have been downloaded.
I offer this friendly advice only because I see you as a misguided idealist without malice.
I had hoped you and I had begun a discussion about your most spectacularly misguided idealism, namely anti-nationalism, more correctly racism, in the earlier blog about Mr. Jefferson here.
I'm happy to continue that discussion if you like.
Well, well, well little boy!
You have excelled yourself here - truly - in the last two posts you have managed to actually state so many pieces of utter trash, slander and outright libalous lies it would be funny- it would be if it wasn't so vicious, wrong and simply not true.
You go to far child - much to far.
But you carry on, please. Dig yourself in a little deeper.
I have taken legal advice and on that advice I will give you my last ever post on your nasty little hate /rant site.
The vicious lies you have stated here about me are categorically FALSE, provably.
I am advised it is customary to inform you of this and give you the opportunity to retract or delete said malicious liable. Please do so - NOW !
You have your answer and your options, act as you will and take the consequences, that will follow, should you not retract or delete (as is my guess, judging by your delusions of worth and self importance and your general, unstable hatred of myself and countless other Nationalists you have slandered)
Reckless and vicious actions have consequences, you will come to understand this.
Jeez, you must be a complete and mutter idiot for posting this.
Is it a Larry/Griffin plot to get you closed down for complete stupidity?
I see Mr Aitken has joined the discussion and is making threats. If we hear of you being involved in a car accident Woody we know why.
So much bluster Mr Jefferson!
I seem to remember you posting false allegations on your blog that Woody was guilty of electoral fraud, when challenged to take your evidence to the police you simply shut up.
Anyway, I thought you supported freedom of speech? Yet here are you trying to get Woody to censor his blog.
You, Clive, are a hypocrite.
Again as I have said previously how can you condemn anyone for alleged violence when you have links to class war (and go on their marches) and Antifa uk.
A previous post of yours had a class war picture with a picture of a scalpel directed at Cameron saying "Mess with our NHS and we will mess with you."
You're hypocrisy and naivety are unbelievable!!
horst,
What are Woody's links to Class War?
Is he a member? A supporter? Or someone who once went on one of their marches?
a picture of a scalpel directed at Cameron
Where is this picture?
http://archive.thenorthernecho.co.uk/2002/12/15/111057.html
http://archive.darlingtonandstocktontimes.co.uk/2002/2/12/146068.html
http://archive.thenorthernecho.co.uk/2002/2/19/145418.html
ok so Jefferson was found not guilty on this drug charge but it makes you think!
Oh dear Clive, you are not a popular man.
It seems lots of people are very eager to tell us things about your past.
Perhaps you would like to retract this sentence?
The vicious lies you have stated here about me are categorically FALSE, provably
You might end up looking a little stupid.
I'm absolutely in AWE at you!
I truly mean it.
How can you have been at all of these places where 'incidents' had taken place exactly at that time? i.e. Kenny Smiths house, Sadie Grahams house and there when Nick Griffin 'actually gave the order'.... to whatever and now be at all the places Clive is alleged to committed what nots? Let me into your secret please. I'm dying to know.
Karl C
DM
As JW has links on his blog to the Class War and Antifa UK web pages and not to Blood & Honour and the BNP sites, I am deeply suspicious that he in some ways supports these violent/direct action organisations. If you scroll down his blog you will come across the scalpel picture.
You cannot complain about a local fascist's violent past, whilst at the same time support violent groups.
"Jonathan,ever considered publishing facts,as opposed to rumours?"
No smoke without fire.
"Again as I have said previously how can you condemn anyone for alleged violence when you have links to class war (and go on their marches) and Antifa uk."
When he's going on about crime and disorder and how it's all the immigrants, I think it's only right to show his hypocracy.
"I'm absolutely in AWE at you!
I truly mean it.
How can you have been at all of these places where 'incidents' had taken place exactly at that time? i.e. Kenny Smiths house, Sadie Grahams house and there when Nick Griffin 'actually gave the order'.... to whatever and now be at all the places Clive is alleged to committed what nots? Let me into your secret please. I'm dying to know.
Karl C"
Who says I was in all these places? Come on, use a little inituative. A little investigation into someone can throw a few things up. I'm sure you're not that much of an idiot as to see how I got the info, are you?
"As JW has links on his blog to the Class War and Antifa UK web pages and not to Blood & Honour and the BNP sites, I am deeply suspicious that he in some ways supports these violent/direct action organisations."
Because the BNP and Blood and Honour are respectable organisations of course.
"You cannot complain about a local fascist's violent past, whilst at the same time support violent groups."
I think you'll find I can and I have.
http://www.whitehaven-news.co.uk/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=539314
I wonder if he answered bail and if he was charged when he went back to the police station
I think woody needs a round of applause for trying to unmask the charlatan that is clive jefferson nee aitken.
The public deserves to know the truth, it can only be a matter of time before the whole truth comes out. I would post on jeffersons blog but ive noticed that freedom of speech does not exist. Any comments not in line with clives way of thinking dont get posted.
A little glimpse of the BNP future perhaps..... do as we say not do as we do!
Jim D
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